Best Baby Carriers, According to Parents Who Love Them

reviewed mark Medically Reviewed by Gina Posner, M.D., F.A.A.P.  | January 4, 2024
Best Baby Carriers

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The best baby carrier is the Ergobaby Omni 360 All-Position Baby Carrier, according to testers from the What to Expect staff and user community. When choosing a baby carrier, experts and parents say the most important factors to consider are comfort, adjustability and safety features.
Best Baby Carriers

For centuries, new parents have relied on papooses, wraps, mei-tais and other contraptions to keep baby close. And with good reason: If you’re toting your baby along on an outing in those first few months (and beyond), a well-chosen baby carrier is one of the easier ways to lighten the load. These products are also soothing for little ones, and many babies love the feeling of closeness they provide.

But in my experience, baby carriers (as well as similar styles like baby ring slings and baby carrier wraps) can be handy at home, too — especially if, like my newborn sons did, your baby prefers snuggling to pretty much anything else. By creating a safe, cozy space for your little one to be gently carried around, these products enable caregivers to snuggle their babies with their hands free.

Deciding to use a baby carrier is the easy part. Deciding which type of carrier you’ll be wearing can take a little more research. There are many different types, so it's important to find the one that works best for you and your lifestyle.

“The type [of baby carrier] used depends on the age of the baby, the instructions that come with the carrier and the ease of use and comfort for the parents,” says Lauren Crosby, M.D., a California-based pediatrician and member of the What to Expect Medical Review Board. “It's a good idea to practice using it without the baby to get used to putting it on and taking it off. You can even put a stuffed animal in it to practice.” 

How we chose the best baby carriers 

We reviewed and selected baby carriers based on the following criteria from leading experts, as well as What to Expect community members:

  • Safety features: Dr. Crosby recommends looking for carriers with a wide, supportive seat for baby, no fabric that blocks his airways and leg holes that he can’t fall through. If you're using a soft-structured carrier or a backpack, look for sturdy, padded straps and strong buckles that click firmly in place. Once you have baby strapped in, make sure he’s positioned properly. You should be able to plant a peck on the top of his little head without leaning too far down. Also important: “Check frequently to ensure that your baby’s mouth and nose are not blocked by fabric or your body and that airflow is not restricted,” says Dr. Crosby.
  • Comfort: Soft fabrics like linen or cotton feel cozy for both baby and you. Other features to look for include a comfortable base strap, which takes pressure off your back and distributes weight evenly around your hips as you carry your little one.
  • Adjustability: The best baby carriers fit all body types and can be easily shared among caregivers. That can mean having plenty of fabric in a wrap-style carrier, or adjustable features in a soft-structured carrier (such as adjustable straps or a waist belt with multiple levels).
  • Cost: Carriers are available at all price points, from under $100 to $300 or more. We’ve included a range of options below, and made sure that the pricier carriers offer added value, such as a higher weight limit that can be used for longer or multiple configurations.

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Best Baby Carrier Overall

Ergobaby Omni 360 All-Position Baby Carrier

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Buying Option
Pros
  • Multiple carrying positions
  • Many color options
  • High weight limit
  • No infant insert
  • Baby hood sun protection
Cons
  • Expensive
  • Bulkier than other carriers
  • There’s a learning curve to use it
Why We Love it
Community Reviews
Why We Love It

Few baby carriers get name-dropped by parents in the What to Expect Community as often as the Ergobaby Omni 360 All-Position Baby Carrier does. This ultra popular baby carrier — which also won a 2023 What to Expect Mom Must-Have Award — is supportive and comfortable. Ergobaby offers many varieties of carriers to choose from, but our community is especially partial to the Omni 360.

When it comes to a quality day-to-day carrier, the Ergobaby Omni 360 ticks all the boxes. It has four carry positions (front-parent facing, front-forward facing, back and side holds) and is strong enough to carry little ones (and not-so-little ones) from 7 to 45 pounds. You simply can’t go wrong giving this baby carrier a try.

"Omni 360 felt really great when wearing," says Olivia DeLong, Senior Editor and mom of a 3-year-old. "I felt like my back was supported and we continued to use it into toddlerhood because it supported my daughter's weight. She loved being in it, and I felt like it was super easy to put on compared to other options out there."

Parents love that the Ergobaby Omni 360 was designed to keep baby in a comfortable, ergonomic position that protects his hips. The carrier is also adjustable — if you and your partner wear vastly different sizes, you can easily switch back and forth. Plus, it comes with a detachable accessory pouch that can worn on the carrier — a handy feature that many parents use as a place to stash their keys or phone.

This best-selling carrier also features a hidden baby hood for sun protection and a pillow to support your baby;s neck. But the Ergobaby carrier isn’t just concerned with the baby's comfort. It also has a thick lumbar back pad and extra padded shoulder straps to help reduce any added strain. Out of all of the baby carriers on the market, the Omni 360 is frequently cited as one that’s surprisingly comfortable to wear.

Material: Cotton

Weight range: 7 to 45 lbs.

Waistband range: Not listed

Carrier weight: 1.7 lbs.

Carrier positions: 4

Community Reviews
  • “I have the Ergobaby Omni 360. This is my fourth baby and I have loved the Ergo. I have used it in in just about every way that you can (there is a hip carry I've never seen the need for). All my babies loved to face out, so the 360 had been our best option. It really is designed to make sure they are in the “M” seat position. I have carried a toddler in it on my back many times with minimal discomfort.”

  • “We have the Ergo 360 and love it. It takes a bit of practice to put it on by yourself (watch the how-to YouTube videos), but once you get the hang of it, it’s quick and easy. It’s very supportive and doesn’t strain my back.”

  • “Love my Ergo Omni, it’s so easy to use, never hurts my back and the little pouch attached is perfect for keys, phone, etc.”

Best Baby Carrier Wrap

Boba Baby Wrap Carrier

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Pros
  • Universal fit
  • Nursing friendly
  • High weight limit
Cons
  • Fabric isn’t as lightweight as some other baby wraps
Why We Love it
Community Reviews
Why We Love It

While soft-structured carriers like the Ergobaby Omni 360 have adjustable waistbands and straps, baby wraps are made of soft, lightweight fabric. They’re a great choice for use around the house or for any caregiver who doesn’t want to feel like they’re wearing a bulky carrier. And when it comes to wrap-style carriers, the Boba Baby Wrap Carrier is easily our What to Expect Community’s top pick.

The Boba is a popular choice (it has more than 18,000 five-star reviews on Amazon) not only for its ultra soft, stretchy fabric — which is large, available in a nice range of colors and can work on a range of body sizes — but also its comfortable fit. Caregivers say their backs feel well supported with this wrap on, and the material is cozy and calming for newborns to snuggle up in. The design also allows nursing moms to easily breastfeed their little ones without taking the carrier off or unwrapping it. On its own, it works well as a nursing cover, too.

Like most baby wraps, the Boba has a bit of a learning curve as you figure out how to get on. But parents say it’s easier once you get the hang of it (many recommend looking up tutorials on YouTube). The center marker in the wrap makes it easy to remember where you need to tie the material, and instructions are sewn right into the wrap’s fabric in case you need a reminder, too. Just note that the fabric, while very soft, is not the most lightweight; if you think you’ll use this wrap mostly in hot weather, you might want to choose a lighter option.

The Boba’s upper weight limit is 35 pounds, though many parents find that wrap-style carriers are best suited for the first six months of baby’s life. As your little one gets older and more wriggly, the buckles and straps on a soft-structured carrier make it easier to tote them around. 

Material: 95 percent cotton, 5 percent Spandex

Weight range: 7 to 35 lbs.

Waistband range: Universal fit

Carrier weight: 1.76 lbs.

Carrier positions: 1

Community Reviews
  • “Love my Boba. It’s so stretchy and comfy.”

  • “Love the Boba, it's especially helpful for premature sized babies on up. I loved breastfeeding baby #1, in it and will do the same for baby #2. The designs are adorable. The material is comfortable!”

  • “I found the Boba easier to use. It’s stretchier and therefore is more foregoing with the wrap.”

Best Ring Sling Carrier

Wildbird Ring Sling Baby Carrier

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Buying Option
Pros
  • Universal fit
  • Nursing friendly
  • Soft and comfortable
Cons
  • Expensive
  • Some parents say there’s a learning curve
Why We Love it
Community Reviews
Why We Love It

If a softer, less-structured carrier like the Boba appeals but you’d prefer something with lightweight fabric, consider the Wildbird Ring Sling. Similar to baby carrier wraps, ring slings are made from a long piece of fabric, but they have a large ring at the shoulder that makes it a little easier to snuggle your baby into place. 

What to Expect parents rave about the Wildbird Ring Sling’s Tencel modal fabric, which is soft and lightweight — ideal for warm weather. The fabric is available in a number of stylish color options, two lengths (standard and long) and three ring colors (rose gold, bronze and black).

As with wrap-style carriers, ring slings usually require some trial and error as you learn how to correctly put them on, and that’s the case with the Wildbird Ring Sling, too. But parents say it’s not overly complicated to figure out, especially if you spend some time watching how-to videos first. Once you have it on, the carrier is easy to adjust, too, reviewers say.

Newborns can use Wildbird’s Ring Sling once they reach 8 pounds, and the sling has an upper weight limit of 35 pounds. As with baby wraps, though, the less-structured design of ring slings make them best for newborns and younger babies.

Material: 100 percent linen

Weight range: 8 to 35 lbs.

Waistband range: Universal fit

Carrier weight: 1 lb.

Carrier positions: 1

Community Reviews
  • “I have three and I love them. Two single linens and a double linen. They are all awesome and I definitely recommend!”

  • “I’ve used Wildbird slings with my previous two kiddos, and will be using one with this baby also! I’ve always used the single, and it works great for us.”

  • “I LOVE mine. I have numerous wraps and slings that I used with my first. I’ve used my WildBird almost exclusively with my second. The ease of the ring sling became more convenient over a wrap when handling two kids. I have a single layer linen and it’s perfect, especially for the hot weather.”

Best Baby Carrier for Back Carrying

Artipoppe Zeitgeist Baby Carrier

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Buying Option
Pros
  • Stylish design
  • High weight limit
  • Supportive and comfortable
Cons
  • Expensive
Why We Love it
Community Reviews
Why We Love It

You’ve probably heard of the Artipoppe or seen social media posts about this high-end baby carrier. And while it’s certainly not necessary to invest in “luxury” baby gear of any kind, many What to Expect parents say that the Artipoppe Zeitgeist Baby Carrier is worth the higher cost.

There’s the fabric, for one — made of cotton and linen/flax, this carrier is superbly soft and very breathable. You spend a lot of time touching baby carriers while wearing one, and parents say it simply feels wonderful to brush up against Artipoppe’s high-end fabrics. The fit is also excellent: There are wide, adjustable straps with plush shoulder pads, as well as an adjustable neck cushion for your baby. Parents say it feels supportive to walk significant distances while wearing this carrier and that they don’t experience back strain.

If you’re looking for a carrier that fits newborns and bigger babies equally well, the Artipoppe is a great choice. The minimum weight limit is 7 pounds and it’s supportive enough to be used until your little one is 45 pounds. There are four adjustable modes, including a back-carrying position. (This is a notable feature, as you don’t always find carriers this soft that also offer a back-carry option.) The carrier is acknowledged “hip-healthy” by the International Hip Dysplasia Institute, too.

"It’s the easiest carrier to put on myself that I’ve tried, the easiest to resize, it’s not bulky, and you can carry baby facing forward and on your back," says Tika Fender, Senior Art Director, mom of a 9-month-old. "It’s also the only one that won’t give me a sore back."

Last but not least, there are the aesthetics. With gold-finished buttons and luxe-looking jacquard fabric, the Artipoppe delivers more style points than most other carriers on the market, if that’s something that’s important to you. But you do pay a premium for these features.

Material: 60 percent cotton, 40 percent linen/flax

Weight range: 7 to 45 lbs.

Waistband range: Not listed

Carrier weight: Not listed

Carrier positions: 3 (front carry facing in, front carry facing out, back carry)

Community Reviews
  • “I got the Artipoppe this time around and it’s soooo, so soft and has a bunch of different adjustments on the bottom to adjust the baby’s leg positioning.”

  • “I love mine! I wore it almost everyday the first year plus. I probably started using it less around 15 months. But we still wear him in it for the airport, grabbing the mail, quicker, convenient times.”

  • “I recently ummed and ahhed then gave in and despite the price tag am sooooo happy with my purchase. I had tried [other carriers] and this beats them by far. Extremely comfortable to wear and get on (practical, too), hip safe, bubs loves it and it has the bonus of looking nice.”

Best Backpack Baby Carrier

Kelty Journey PerfectFIT Elite

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Buying Option
Pros
  • Hip pockets for storage
  • Wide seat
  • Hydration pocket
Cons
  • Instructions can be confusing
  • Backpack is on the heavy side
Why We Love it
Community Reviews
Why We Love It

While the Artipoppe and Ergobaby Omni 360 are both excellent soft-structured carriers with a basic back-carry position, some parents require a more structured baby carrier backpack.If you’re planning on taking your older baby or toddler hiking or on similar big adventures, the Kelty Journey PerfectFIT Elite offers the support and added features you need.

The Kelty Journey PerfectFIT Elite is about as supportive and comfortable for caregivers as a baby carrier can get. Load lifters, a waist belt and sternum straps evenly distribute your little one’s weight to prevent muscle strain. It’s also supportive enough to hold your child for longer stretches, thanks to a five-point harness, wide seat base and built-in sunshade for added sun protection.

Although the backpack is on the heavy side compared to other carriers (it weighs 7 pounds) many parents say the added weight is worth it for the added features. There are seven exterior pockets, including side mesh pockets, hip belt pockets and a “dirty” compartment for diapers, as well as a hydration pocket and a kickstand. 

This carrier is designed for children between 16 and 40 pounds, so you won’t be able to use it with newborns. Parents should also keep in mind that this is a very bulky piece of baby gear — if you’re going on a longer hike or trip where you’ll be doing lots of walking and want to skip a stroller, the Kelty Journey PerfectFIT Elite is perfect. But for minor errands and short walks, you’d probably prefer one of the other baby carriers on this list.

Material: Backpack: Polyester, nylon; Frame: Metal

Weight range: 16 to 40 lbs.

Torso range: 15.5 to 21 inches

Carrier weight: 7 lbs.

Carrier positions:

Community Reviews
  • “We have the Kelty Journey PerfectFIT and really liked it!”

  • “We have the Kelty Journey PerfectFIT Elite. We have used it almost every week since getting it and have no issues with it. it is super easy to adjust for both parents and baby likes riding in it.”

Best Baby Carrier for Newborns

Ergobaby Embrace Cozy Newborn Baby Wrap Carrier

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Buying Option
Pros
  • Soft and lightweight for newborns
  • Multiple color options
Cons
  • Not as well suited for toddlers
  • Lower weight limit
Why We Love it
Community Reviews
Why We Love It

For a carrier that marries the best features of a baby wrap with a soft-structured carrier, look no further than the Ergobaby Embrace. This baby carrier is lightly structured with a supportive waist belt and adjustable straps, but still feels soft and cocoon-like for the youngest babies to sit in.

Reviews say the Ergobaby Embrace is easy to get on — crucial for sleep-deprived newborn parents! — and the ponte knit fabric is comfortable for caregivers to wear and babies to snuggle in. Parents appreciate how easy it is to get a perfect fit with this carrier, thanks to the waist belt (it can fit waists ranging from 22 to 54 inches) and straps that adjust depending on your height. Another nice feature is that the entire carrier is light enough to roll up, so you can stash it in a diaper back when you’re not using it.

As ideal as the Ergobaby Embrace is for newborns, know that it’s not as well-suited for older babies and toddlers. It has a maximum weight that’s lower than other carriers on this list, just 25 pounds. Some parents may not want to pay $100 for the Embrace only to have to upgrade to the Omni 360 once their baby reaches the weight limit. If you envision yourself baby-wearing into year 2 or beyond, your best bet may be to invest in a longer-use carrier such as the Omni 360.

Material: Ponte knit (79 percent polyester, 17 percent rayon, 4 percent spandex)

Weight range: 7 to 25 lbs.

Waistband range: 22 to 54 inches

Carrier weight: 1.48 lbs.

Carrier positions:

Community Reviews
  • “I just got the Embrace for my 2-month-old and I love it! It's soft and light but still structured. It can outward face too although I haven't used this option yet. I think this is the best for the first several months but eventually the more structured Ergo will be needed.”

  • “I use Ergo Embrace carrier. For newborns you just fold the waistband in twice and it fits 7 lbs. and up (there are great YouTube videos on how to put on). The first couple of times it is awkward but after that it gets easy.”

  • “I love the Embrace! It’s so soft and comfy, and super easy to put on!”

Best Baby Carrier for Plus-Size Parents

Baby Tula Explore Baby Carrier

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Buying Option
Pros
  • High weight limit
  • Breathable material
  • Mesh panels
  • Multiple carry positions
Cons
  • Expensive
Why We Love it
Community Reviews
Why We Love It

The Baby Tula Explore is a top-rated soft-structured carrier with a long list of worthy features. It boasts multiple carry positions (front-facing facing out, facing in and back carry), a high weight limit (it can accommodate tots up to 45 pounds) and an ergonomic design. The brand’s Coast style is especially popular; with mesh panels and breathable 100 percent cotton fabric, it keeps you and baby cool on hot days. Parents also appreciate the large waistband pocket.

But the Baby Tula Explore really stands out for how simple it is to adjust and achieve a perfect, supportive fit. The body panel, chest clip and waistband can all be easily adjusted, and the waistband range (up to 57 inches) is the roomiest on this list. As a result, parents in What to Expect’s Plus-Size Moms and Moms-to-Be group frequently rave about this carrier, saying it’s one of the best on the market to comfortably fit a range of body types.

Material: 100 percent cotton

Weight range: 7 to 45 lbs.

Waistband range: Up to 57 inches

Carrier weight: 2.79 lbs.

Carrier positions:

Community Reviews
  • “I got the Tula Explore carrier as it was recommended to me as one of the best plus-size carriers. I personally found it to be the most comfortable out of all the major brands I tried. Oh and I'm a size 20/22.”

  • “The Tula Explore carrier does hit higher on my waist where I am smaller and I had to extend it all the way but I still had a little bit of room. I think I am a size 24-26. I really like that it goes up higher on the waist because other ones go lower and I’m wider under my belly button. It felt very comfortable, too.”

  • “[Baby and I] both LOVE the Tula. Highly recommend it, especially the coast that is more breathable.”

Best Baby Carrier for Toddlers

Tushbaby Hip Seat Baby Carrier

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Buying Option
Pros
  • Hip carry option is great for toddlers
  • Built-in storage
Cons
  • Limited use
  • Can’t be used for back-carrying
Why We Love it
Community Reviews
Why We Love It

Ultrasoft baby wraps or ring slings are ideal for the early newborn days. But if you’re hoping to babywear into toddlerhood, most parents find that they need a little extra support. Soft-structured carriers like the Egobaby Omni 360, Baby Tula Explore and Artipoppe all have higher weight limits and designs that let parents comfortably babywear in the outward front-facing or back-carrying positions. However, many What to Expect parents who continue babywearing their toddlers say the Tushbaby Hipseat Baby Carrier is also worth considering.

Unlike the traditional baby carriers on this list, the Tushbaby is just a seat carrier. Your child sits on the memory foam-lined seat, which wraps around your waist with secure Velcro straps. You can position the seat on your hip (the most popular mode), forward-facing, face-to-face or cradle-carrying. And although the Tushbaby is often recommended for 2- and 3-year-olds, the design also works perfectly as a portable nursing pillow to breast- or bottle-feed little ones on the go.

It also doubles as a diaper bag, thanks to large built-in storage pockets, so you don’t need to bring a separate purse or backpack.The entire thing weighs just 1 pound, so it won’t weigh you down.

Because there are no straps, you’ll need to hold your child with at least one arm the entire time you’re wearing the Tushbaby, which makes this more limiting than other carriers. But toddler parents say this is actually perfect for indecisive tots who want to be carried one minute, walk the next, then be carried again. 

Material: Not listed

Weight range: 8 to 45 lbs.

Waistband range: Up to 46 inches (or 70 inches with the waistband extender)

Carrier weight: 1 lb.

Carrier positions: 5

Community Reviews
  • “I have the Tushbaby and I LOVE it. My almost 3-year-old can sit on it, too. It’s so easy to take off and put on. My husband uses it as well.”

  • “I have one and really like it. Good for grandparents to use around the house too — really does help make it so much easier to carry baby around!”

  • “It is literally the best thing. My husband and I use it all the time. It’s so much more convenient than a typical carrier because she is so much easier to pick up and put down. If your baby needs to be walked around a lot (like mine does) it is worth the investment.”

Our Research

We referenced product safety guidelines from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP). 

We also spoke to two pediatricians for more information about using baby carriers safely:

  • Lauren Crosby, M.D., a California-based pediatrician and member of the What to Expect Medical Review Board
  • Gina Posner, M.D., a board-certified pediatrician practicing at MemorialCare Medical Group in Fountain Valley, California and member of the What to Expect Medical Review Board

Additionally, we consulted parents on the What to Expect staff members, including:

  • Olivia DeLong, Senior Editor and mom of a 3-year-old
  • Tika Fender, Senior Art Director, mom of a 9-month-old

As a mom of two and former parenting editor, I’ve also included my experience with baby carriers.

Finally, we canvassed the What to Expect community boards to learn which carriers parents felt were easiest to set use and most comfortable.

FAQs

Yes, baby carriers are overall safe, Dr. Posner says. But as with most types of baby gear, there are safety considerations you should keep in mind when using these products:

  • Make sure your baby is positioned properly. The AAP notes that some sling carriers can curl a baby’s body into a C-shape, which can cause breathing problems. Make sure your child’s neck is straight, he’s not slumped over and his chin isn’t pressed into his chest when sitting in a carrier. You should always be able to see your little one’s face. 
  • Follow the manufacturer’s instructions. Check the minimum and maximum height and weight requirements and always use any restraining straps.
  • Choose a safe product. Baby carriers should be made from sturdy materials and have leg holes that babies can’t slip through. If you’re opting for a carrier backpack, the aluminum frame should be padded. A sunshade is also a helpful feature, the AAP says.
  • Avoid prolonged use. You should also be mindful of how much time your baby is in carriers and other types of infant gear such as car seats and baby seats. Too much time spent in carriers has been linked to hip dysplasia (more on this below) as well as delays sitting, crawling, walking and even talking.

 

Doctors have seen an increase in the number of babies who develop a condition called hip dysplasia due to prolonged time spent in baby carriers, car seats and other products. To use a carrier safely, the AAP says your child’s hips should not be spread out in a squat position — they should be in an “M” shape like a sitting frog. 

“As long as the carrier allows the hips to bend naturally, it is not a problem,” says Dr. Posner. “If it straightens the legs, it can potentially cause hip dysplasia.”

 

Some baby carriers are designed for newborns; they typically have a minimum weight limit, usually around 7 pounds. Many styles can continue to be used until your baby is a toddler, though many older infants and toddlers get restless in a carrier. You’ll want to pay close attention to the manufacturer’s minimum and maximum weight and height limits.

 

You have options when shopping for baby carriers. Here are the different types you may come across:

  • Soft-structured baby carriers: With a more defined feel and plenty of straps, these feats of construction tend to distribute baby's weight to your hips while offering your little one plenty of support, creating a snug, comfortable fit for both of you. Many soft-structured baby carriers have multiple carrying positions so you can continue to use them as your tiny baby grows into a bigger toddler.
  • Baby wraps: Essentially, wrap baby carriers are long swaths of fabric that are wrapped around your body and tied in place to hold your baby close. They’re perfect for puttering with baby at home while you get things done, but not supportive enough for larger infants or toddlers.
  • Baby carrier backpacks: For parents who plan to introduce their baby to the great outdoors, these heavier, backpack-style carriers offer additional padding and boning to keep your little one in place while out on adventures. They offer more structure and security, but they’re a little heavier than the other two options. They also are often only for back-carrying, so you usually have to wait until your baby is a little older and can sit up on her own.
  • Ring slings: A ring sling uses a long piece of fabric with a large ring at the shoulder that secures everything in place. This type of carrier is soft, flexible and requires minor wrapping to get in place.